The U.S. media reported early on that Putin had informed Xi of the start date when he was in Beijing for the Olympics. I’m just mentioning those reports because they existed, not because they were true or credible. The reports looked to me like just Legion of Doom-type stuff at the time, not factual or plausibly sourced, and I agree that such a briefing probably didn’t occur.
But I don’t think I agree that China is peeved about that. If Marko knew a big military action was coming, and could inform nobodies like me via A-E, then Beijing knew it too. And Russia’s waiting until the Olympics were done and everyone had a couple of days to leave looked to me like deference to China. So I don’t see ruffled feathers there.
However, also thanks to A-E, I see the war as being fundamentally about Russia’s idea of itself, the East Slavs, Rus’, human and natural resources … or at least Putin’s ideas about all that stuff. While decades of U.S./NATO prodding and provocation created the conditions to induce such a drastic step, this isn’t really a fight that other countries (even Belarus) will see as their own. Even if it had gone well it wasn’t going to help China or really hurt the U.S. … and much less so as a quagmire.
China doesn’t care about all the sacred Ukrainian blah blah that the West pretends to esteem so highly, but since this is Russia’s own fight, I think China just wanted it settled quickly, and they’re irritated that the opposite has happened.
I live in Asia. One change I've noticed here is that the Chinese turned pretty quiet with their threats to take Taiwan "by force if necessary" as Russia's battlefield fortunes took a bad turn for the worse. They seem to understand that even a weakened Empire can still defeat anyone trying to paint a target on them. As Marko has said before, "it's what they do best."
Maybe this is why this war is going on? Not only just this one point bc there are always more goals ... but I have a theory that it is all chess bc there is in the decennia's gone a lot of US dollars to Russia... so why not play this card to let China see that it is not that easy and war goes never to plan? I follow the battle field and these guys and people like: https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki, https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring and there are so much proof that this is not a real war like most still think it is. there is much more to it...
Several important elements left out of the narrative here would serve to instruct; chief among which would be the burgeoning alliance tween the tiny TERROR STATE in the muddled east, and the gigantic prison farm in the far east. Neither party to that 'alliance of opportunity' wishes to see a strong and successful state survive in the territory where [both believe] a satrapy of the $power best belongs.
The successive stages through which the CCP has gone - from 'revolutionary army' to 'state capitalist' command economy overseer, now culminating in the fusion of international finance capital with the techno-military advances supplied by the talmudist's dominance in the field of ripping off western advances
necessitates a 'double game' being played with Moscow, in anticipation of being able to divide the spoils after regime collapse. While the SMO serves Beijing well as being 'in the mold of'/supportive of the rhetoric behind the suppression of 'little brothers' Tibet & Sinkiang. the collapse of the CSTO opens up so many opportunities to both the de-facto 'allies' that their interests are served by the lack of military success for the adventurist project Moscow has been lured into.
Only in their joint embrace of bio-medical fascism and killing off of their own people do the two former titans of the commie continuum still unite in 'unbreakable bonds of fraternal solidarity!'
Iran - which has never been more than a useful sub-project of the UNhOLY Land itself - has been granted the privilege of implicating itself via it's russkie subcontractor status, so that the trots in charge of the USSA will finally agree to Teheran getting snuffed ... and things getting 'back to normal' in the Land that Anglo-American Oil built! SAUDIS are on side... no matter how much eye-batting and rouge goes onto the OPEC performances.
quoting you: "they should probably humble themselves and come ask for it. And send Putin, not the number 2." to me, this indicates that the Kremlin still hangs on to the SMO mindset, even though NATO conveterd it into a war. Putin and Lavrov have been the voices of reason all along.
China is providing military help to the Russian Navy, a drydock for the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier. As far as I can figure out this is free. This is not for the Ukraine, but free military help nevertheless.
And who says that it is not possible that China makes some stuff here and there and they put a Iranian body on top? Do not say that is the case but can be...
This utter fool hasn't a clue about what's going on.
He is not bc his predictions come more out then others, so that is proof that he knows what he is talking about..
so there is now just one left who is really the f**l here.
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The U.S. media reported early on that Putin had informed Xi of the start date when he was in Beijing for the Olympics. I’m just mentioning those reports because they existed, not because they were true or credible. The reports looked to me like just Legion of Doom-type stuff at the time, not factual or plausibly sourced, and I agree that such a briefing probably didn’t occur.
But I don’t think I agree that China is peeved about that. If Marko knew a big military action was coming, and could inform nobodies like me via A-E, then Beijing knew it too. And Russia’s waiting until the Olympics were done and everyone had a couple of days to leave looked to me like deference to China. So I don’t see ruffled feathers there.
However, also thanks to A-E, I see the war as being fundamentally about Russia’s idea of itself, the East Slavs, Rus’, human and natural resources … or at least Putin’s ideas about all that stuff. While decades of U.S./NATO prodding and provocation created the conditions to induce such a drastic step, this isn’t really a fight that other countries (even Belarus) will see as their own. Even if it had gone well it wasn’t going to help China or really hurt the U.S. … and much less so as a quagmire.
China doesn’t care about all the sacred Ukrainian blah blah that the West pretends to esteem so highly, but since this is Russia’s own fight, I think China just wanted it settled quickly, and they’re irritated that the opposite has happened.
I live in Asia. One change I've noticed here is that the Chinese turned pretty quiet with their threats to take Taiwan "by force if necessary" as Russia's battlefield fortunes took a bad turn for the worse. They seem to understand that even a weakened Empire can still defeat anyone trying to paint a target on them. As Marko has said before, "it's what they do best."
Maybe this is why this war is going on? Not only just this one point bc there are always more goals ... but I have a theory that it is all chess bc there is in the decennia's gone a lot of US dollars to Russia... so why not play this card to let China see that it is not that easy and war goes never to plan? I follow the battle field and these guys and people like: https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki, https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring and there are so much proof that this is not a real war like most still think it is. there is much more to it...
Several important elements left out of the narrative here would serve to instruct; chief among which would be the burgeoning alliance tween the tiny TERROR STATE in the muddled east, and the gigantic prison farm in the far east. Neither party to that 'alliance of opportunity' wishes to see a strong and successful state survive in the territory where [both believe] a satrapy of the $power best belongs.
The successive stages through which the CCP has gone - from 'revolutionary army' to 'state capitalist' command economy overseer, now culminating in the fusion of international finance capital with the techno-military advances supplied by the talmudist's dominance in the field of ripping off western advances
necessitates a 'double game' being played with Moscow, in anticipation of being able to divide the spoils after regime collapse. While the SMO serves Beijing well as being 'in the mold of'/supportive of the rhetoric behind the suppression of 'little brothers' Tibet & Sinkiang. the collapse of the CSTO opens up so many opportunities to both the de-facto 'allies' that their interests are served by the lack of military success for the adventurist project Moscow has been lured into.
Only in their joint embrace of bio-medical fascism and killing off of their own people do the two former titans of the commie continuum still unite in 'unbreakable bonds of fraternal solidarity!'
Iran - which has never been more than a useful sub-project of the UNhOLY Land itself - has been granted the privilege of implicating itself via it's russkie subcontractor status, so that the trots in charge of the USSA will finally agree to Teheran getting snuffed ... and things getting 'back to normal' in the Land that Anglo-American Oil built! SAUDIS are on side... no matter how much eye-batting and rouge goes onto the OPEC performances.
quoting you: "they should probably humble themselves and come ask for it. And send Putin, not the number 2." to me, this indicates that the Kremlin still hangs on to the SMO mindset, even though NATO conveterd it into a war. Putin and Lavrov have been the voices of reason all along.
China is providing military help to the Russian Navy, a drydock for the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier. As far as I can figure out this is free. This is not for the Ukraine, but free military help nevertheless.
https://politros.com/23814571-baijiahao_rossiya_poluchila_ot_kitaya_roskoshnii_podarok_vesom_100_tisyach_tonn?utm_source=finobzor.ru
And now research from were the coup came of Iran 1979 and look what is changed in Iran from then.. and you can begin to see a whole other world...
Basic knowledge in this world in this time= never take what they present to you on the surface as true bc 99% it is false and a distraction.
And who says that it is not possible that China makes some stuff here and there and they put a Iranian body on top? Do not say that is the case but can be...